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NetStormHQ Ladder Guide

Ladder Forum

This forum has been set for the ladder purposes. You can use it to post your ideas, suggestions about the ladder in general, but more likely for the game deals, if you want to set a special time for your ladder games. Also, if you have played a Ladder game and won, and your opponent player didn't report or you reported a game and made a mistake. I'm not a magician but I will try to fix any of the stated issues.

You can now use this forum to report any Team Ladder Games.

I will use this thread to post you any news regarding to ladder, such as changes in rules or in the system. You can read the rules and conditions on the tourney forum, the basic rules are on the ladder page, along with the scoring table. Play fair and worthy to become one of the best players. I don't want to penalize anyone but it's the last option.

How to use the Ladder script:

You can access the ladder anytime from our top menu NetStorm>Ladder. It will automaticly bring you to the Ladder Ranking (Ranks). You can also access Ladder from the menu bar on the right side at the front page (check the ladder), and check out the updated top ten players in ladder.

Ladder Menu:

Join the Ladder - if you are not signed yet, click here to join the ladder. You have to be signed on NSHQ as a member. You will be signed with your account name. Use only one account for the ladder, others will be deleted.

Your rank - if you are signed, the ladder will display your rank. Rank #1 is the best.

Players in the ladder - this will show the total number of players in the ladder.

Ranks - the link to the Ladder rankings. Here you can see the current ladder with all the ranked players. The best players will be placed at top. The table will show the current player's poins, games, win/lost statistics and a percentage of games played from red possition (opional).

Games - the link to the Ladder games. All played and reported games are listed here. Winner, looser, watcher and the report time are displayed.

Rules - this is a list of basic rules and hat happens if you break them. In most cases you will be penalized with -200 pts, in worse situations you will be removed from the ladder or banned. You can also view the tournament rules where you can read the in-game rules in more detail. You don't need to play and win best of three games to win a ladder game (just one) but you have to follow the rules and conditions correctly. If there are any major changes in Ladder rules, it will be announced here, small updates are placed in chatbox. Be sure to be updated with the rules before you manage to play a Ladder game. Please respect that you have to change you opponent every time and you can't play the same person more than three times per month!

Report a game - if you played a Ladder game and lost, you need to report. If you do not report you will be penalized by loosing 200 pts. By loosing a game but reporting you will still earn points when playing the same or better player, so don't forget about this. Also keeping to report any games played will ensure the ladder system to be updated properly.

How to report:

1. Select the winner from the player list. It is important that the winner joined the ladder, otherwise you can't select. If there are too many entries, use the letter keys to quick select a player starting with that letter. You can only pick player which you haven't played with 3 times. Otherwise the report won't be valid.

2. Select a watcher from the list. I reccommend to use a server watcher in any case of issue that might occur. Tell watchers to enter the ladder as well so you can select them from the menu list. They will not appear on the list if they are not in the ladder.
If you played a Team Ladder Game, please sellect your allied player.

3. Select the winner's possition in your (first - if many) game (red or blue). This doesn't affect the scoring, its optional. Note that the top players can choose the spot on the ring first. In team ladder games pick Red if red team won or Blue if blue team were winners.

4. Check if everything is ok and complete the report. If you played a team player game, please report here too: Team Ladder Games.

Forum | News - theese are the quick links to this forum.

Archives - before reseting the ladder, we will make sure that all your ranks will be archived. You can then review who was the best and when, and if there was a ladder tournament with the top ranks involved, you can check the grid and the winner. Player with most points before the Ladder reset will be rewarded as MVP (Most Valuable Player). Resets are done monthly, or once per 2 months, depending on each month's active ladder games. More ladder games means that the ladder will reset sooner.

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Since this is our first effort to open the ladder after all theese years, there might be some bugs or problems and therefore we may change something or improve. Watch this thread and stay tuned! Good luck to you all and have fun!

[ Edited Mon Sep 22 2008, 08:06PM ]

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Due to the new system and possibilities of abuse, we will edit the old rules and replace them as follows:

Register conditions:

Players cannot sign up in the ladder with more than one NSHQ account. Any other accounts from the same player will be deleted, along with its games played.
The registred name in ladder should match with player's name when playing any of the ladder games. Undercovers are not allowed.
Darklords and NSHQ Main Admins will not be ranked on the ladder archives but they can play if allowed by Tourney Admin.

Ladder game settings:

Pick an opponent from the ladder you wish to play. Don't pick the person you played last, or the one you have played allready three times. If you pick a player who is currently rated higher than yourself in the ladder and he keeps refusing you (more than three times), you have the right to report such an abuse on the ladder forum. If confirmed, the player who refused you may loose points according to ladder penalties. Try playing the closest opponents in the ladder.
A watcher/server is required for any game. Anyonce can serve you a ladder game if he follows theese rules. If wather can't serve, agree on something or wait for a better watcher, but any complains later will be ignored. If you play a ladder game without a watcher, you risk that your game will not be reported. Any TAT, admin or tourney director can observe the ladder match to see if everything is according to rules.
The game settings are just like in normal tournaments, NS standard without using spells and only one game is required in order to win a ladder match. Lost players should report right after the game. Any delays will be penalized accoridng to the ladder penalties.
When playing a ladder game, tell the server to type "Ranked Ladder Game" inside a ring. Type the same in chat along with your names and the number of the current round.

Ladder game rules:

Start with a pre-built altar it is not allowed in the ladder and it will result in a penalty of -200 points when reported. The ladder game itself becomes invalid.
If you start a ladder game (both players logging into the battle), you cannot leave, otherwise you will lost. Remember to play all the games, best of three is required to complete the match.
Sacrificing is allowed in ladder games. If your priest dies you will loose the ladder round.
Any cheats or abuse is not allowed and should be reported immidiately. We know these persons and if these cheats get public it will results to their banning unless it's proven it doesn't come from them. Aiming someone as a cheater without a proper evidence will not be tolerated.
The rules for the tournaments apply also for the Ladder. Check the tourney rules for any changes for in-game rules or for more information.

Ladder reporting rules:

Players cannot play and report the same person in ladder more than three times. Any other attempts to fight the same person will be ignored and the additional games will be deleted. You have to play others in the ladder in order to advance.
The one who lost the ladder match has to report a game. If the looser doesn't report a game he will be penalized with -200 points.
You cannot cheat the ladder and assign yourself as the winner now.
Reporting a fake game is strictly not allowed and such a violation will be penalized according to Ladder penalties.
Abusing theese rules more than three times can result to ban a player from the ladder for a certain time or permanently.
Any useless complaints will be ignored and will give you a bad name to us and we won't listen to you anymore.

- The NSHQ Ladder Managment

Check out the Ladder penalties

[ Edited Mon Sep 22 2008, 05:52PM ]

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Sat Mar 24 2007, 09:46PM

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The ladder script is now set so that you cannot report yourself as the winner. The rules and penalties (up) are now updated. Since this is fixed, everyone who did assigned himself as the winner by mistake has his points back.

As requested and planned by myself, yes I will join the points from all the contests on NSHQ (= bounties, tourneys and ladder), but not in the ladder, but as the announcement for best 3 players. This list will be updated monthly, and it will be actually a menu window on the news page of NSHQ.

You can also check the tourney ladder on tourney forum - it's updated after each tournament and posted on the completed tourney news announcement.
The bounty ladder is on IHSB.

The points in each contest are very well balanced, so in order to be the best you need to win the tourney or at least participate in each, kill at least one bounty per five hunts and play active ladder games to achieve extra points.

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Mon Mar 26 2007, 03:49AM

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Due to the recent abuse I've seen, the rules gets modified again.

High rated players cannot refuse the ladder challenge from lower rated players. If they have an excuse, ok, three times allowed. But considering more refuses might mean that the player is just trying to stay top with no honour to proove it. So now refused players can report on the ladder forum and if the refuse is confirmed, the player who refused gets warned and penalized according to ladder penalties. Fight with honour people, once you have signed on the ladder it doesn't mean you can idle and fight only those who you like. You also have to accept other challenges as well!

Another serious update. Note that you can sign in for ladder just for the watcher purpose. If you have zero games played, you will not be removed, but you will be considered as a watcher. Watchers are important for every game. Any games without a proper watcher might be refused from the ladder! So ask people to sign for the ladder so you can set them as watchers.

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Mon Apr 09 2007, 03:36PM

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The one day ladder tournaments will be played once a month if we manage to get the selected players on time. The results of each tournament will be displayed in archives of each month.

The ladder resets will most likely be set for each two months. Players will be informed few days before the reset.

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Sun Dec 02 2007, 05:00PM

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Well if you have read the news, the ladder is back online. All the rules will stay, however we aren't sure about the next reset, maybe we will let it a bit longer than a month for the first time.

I'm also planning some improvements, I will post them soon. One of the improvements will be so you can register teams to the ladder as well.

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Thu Jan 03 2008, 02:00AM

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OK we fixed the ladder and now it automatically does this:

- prevents players from spamm reporting (there's a ten minute or so delay before you can report another game)

- prevents players from playing the same person more than three times (till the next reset ofc).

So now when you get the message "You are trying to report too many games!!!
Contact an admin about this problem." you have violated one of the above rules.

The stats bug when reporting was also fixed.

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Mon Sep 22 2008, 07:44PM

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Ladder now supports Team Ladder Games.

Instead of implementing a new script, we'll do it simple:

-2s ladder game is going to be 2 ladder games in one (purple vs blue and red vs yellow).

-3s ladder game is going to be 3 ladder games in one (purple vs teal, red vs blue and orange vs yellow).

Only theese schemes are available to play.

How to report:

First, report your loss just like usual. One exception: select your ally as watcher. Once you report your loss, you also need to report in "Report Team Ladder Game" thread.

Use this formula how to post:

Game type:
Played:
My Side:
Winner:
Winner side:
Ladder point report:
Watcher:
Other players:

If you cannot report (you have played the same person 3 times already) then add a note "not reported due to max 3 games rule". I will assign points manually later or before ladder reset.

Always post other players who were playing and who lost. Although other players who lost also have to report, it will help in case when something isn't reported right.

Also remeber:
When you get sacrificed in a Ladder Team game, you will loose no matter the outcome of the game. You have to report lost to the player who sacrificed you.

It is not allowed to report the same person more than once during one Team Ladder game. So other player has to report other players according to the scheme or other player who wasn't sacing. Always pay attention when reporting a Team Ladder Game. If you're not sure ask PM me directly.

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Sat Nov 01 2008, 01:45PM

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Ladder reset from Sep-Oct 2008 was done today. You can join the Ladder again.

TO JOIN THE LADDER NOW, CLICK HERE.
To view the Ladder archives, CLICK HERE.

You can start playing a Clan Ladder Game since 4 Clans are already in play. Once your clan/guild is properly registred you can start challenging other clan members for a Clan Ladder Game. Clan Ladder Games are normal ladder games, but you can report additional games so your clans gain points in Clan Ladder.

How to play a Clan Ladder:

1. Make sure your clan/guild and your opponent's clan/guild are registred. Also make sure that EVERYONE IN RING JOINED LADDER so everyone can report a Ladder game and watchers can be picked too.

2. You and your opponent will deal a Clan Ladder Game. Best way is to find a neutral watcher too.

3. You can deal a Ladder 1s, or, if you have more players from each guild, you can deal a Ladder 2s or 3s. Here it doesn't matter which player got sacked by who, it's more important which team has won. So only report winning team, but you can post the details of team battle here, in case of incorrect report in ladder script.

You have to play at least best of three games in order to win a Clan Ladder Game, not just one.

4. Every rule from Ladder Rules also apply for Clan Ladder. That means you have to report correctly in Ladder script according to Ladder Rules. Report team ladder games separately too. If you won't do this then you'll miss the points in Ladder for players.

5. Once you're done with all of this, please report the CLAN LADDER game here.

Use this form to report:

Game type: (1s,2s,3s)
Winning team: (player[guild],...)
My team: (player[guild],...)
Watchers:
Report

Make sure every defeated player reported the game on the ladder page and also on the Clan Ladder report thread.

Scoring in Clan Ladder:

Each winning game will earn your clan +3 points per player in your team
Each lost game will earn your clan +1 point per player in your team
Not reporting back will cost your clan -1 point per player in your team

[ Edited Sat Nov 01 2008, 01:49PM ]

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Thu Jan 29 2009, 05:12PM

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Alright there were speculations that if you're playing a tournament game you can also count it as a ladder game. This is rather false and it's actually match exploiting.

To make it clear, if you play a ladder game, you will be awarded on the ladder script, you will get game count and points for that. You will have it in archives after the tournament resets.

Now playing a tournament game is different, you have to play and win at least 2 rounds (best of 3). For completing the match, you will be awarded on tournament score board. If you win a tournament cup, you will boost your rank. If you play your round you will have increased reliability and you can also gain a tournament rank.

Simply put: playing a tournament match is awarded differently than a single ladder game. You can't be awarded both on tournament board and ladder board for playing only one game. Doing so will be put as violation and the contestants doing it can be disqualified.

I'll leave this rule in new tournament rules update which will come after the first new ladder tourney.

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Wed Apr 08 2009, 11:27AM

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I've updated the ladder rules a little today.

One of the most recent changes are that, from now on, all watchers/serves have to join ladder prior hosting/watching ladder games. This doesn't mean you have to play the ladder. No, this ensures that all watchers and servers can be selected from the ladder report game menu - which is important.

Now to ensure all watchers that have joined the ladder, but they want to stay as watchers only and keep out from actually playing the ladder - there's a second update.

All ladder participants who have zero games played are from now on immune to any player challenges. They are considered as watchers untill they decide to play a game - they can challenge anyone who has played a game. This also supports the rule about "only high ranked players cannot refuse challenges from lower ranked players".

Also the final update is that I won't reset the ladder sooner until we get at least enough games played - let's say 100. Note that it can take more than two months from now. But this will ensure that the ladder won't be archived with just few games played (in non-ns seasons). Also I won't reset ladder sooner than each second month just like it's used now - even if we get 100 games played sooner.

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Tue Sep 01 2009, 07:34PM

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Ladder has been reseted today. All registred players and their games were deleted. We only managed to get 44 ladder games in 6 months, which seems a bit poor for the spring and summer time. Well I hope it gets better in Sept. You can now start again and fight to the top. Tournament will be released soon too. Good luck!

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Wed Dec 23 2009, 08:09AM

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The ladder will be reseted after New Year! So you have one week to advance in your ranks.

Also from this moment on if we will know when the ladder will be reseted I will write it down on the ladder page itself.

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Wed Feb 10 2010, 03:08PM

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A little update. From the ladder menu on the right, you can now access a report game menu. Perhaps I will replace the links with some buttons but not right now.Another update is in report game menu. From there you can access the report team game thread which is not used very much. Once again you can play team ladder games if all people who are playing are in ladder. It's much more fun than the single ladder match. Try it.

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Thu Apr 01 2010, 06:08PM

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Ladder is reset. Check Ladder archives for top 20 players.
If you want to play ladder now, you have to sing up again if you want to play ladder or watch ladder games. New season is April - June 2010.
Ladder tournament along with the results are going to be posted sometime during friday.

We also have a new update for the Ladder: New decline challenge report system is going to be posted in Ladder Forum where you can report from now.Big Change is that all top ten players have to accept challenges, not just higher ranked. But if you refuse but still play a ladder game with same person that day the refuse won't count. So you have kinda whole day to refuse a player but not longer. Also from now on report every ladder abuse in one thread which was provided for you in Ladder forum.

[ Edited Thu Apr 01 2010, 10:15PM ]

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